MO and signature are both different and cases arent geographically linked. At the end of July 2012, a surveillance video turned up with the girls on it. For example, a rival meth dealer, or maybe an angry supplier, would leave clues, or a type of message that confirmed his or her involvement in the crime. The remembrance came with a message for the killer of the Black Hawk County girls. The offenders vehicle may also have been altered with a new paint job or re-upholstery. Jordi Faber that is a totally different kidnapping unfortunately. Fame. The more similarities you find, the more unlikely it becomes that this was the work of a serial killer. Unfortunately,he took the cowards way out so as not to answer for the evil he did. Lyric Cook-Morrissey, 10, and Elizabeth Collins, 8, disappeared on July 13, 2012, while they were riding their bikes in Evansdale. Curl said the community did everything they could to help raise awareness and bring the girls home. State investigators conducted a painstaking examination of potential similarities between the kidnapping and murder of Dayton teenager Kathlynn Shepard and missing person cases in Iowa, and in June 2013 a state official announced that potential connections were already being analyzed between Shepards murder and the Cook and Collins slayings. But in my experience, families may share some behaviors, learned or otherwise. What is Rydell? Because the girls were presumably kidnapped in a fairly quiet, isolated area (the lake), I believe they were probably seen either in town, and followed to the abduction site, or someone at the lake happened to see them. Considering the snatch and grab scenario of young women nowadays youre not far off gramma. They have the girls DNA I am sure and if the did a good investigation they kept personal items of the girls. Elizabeth June Marie Collins (courtesy Overton Family Funeral Homes) was born at Allen Memorial Hospital in Waterloo, Iowa, on July 31, 2003, the daughter of Drew and Heather (Cook) Collins. In no way do i feel attacked by you making a comment, thats why we are members of this site, to bring minds together. It makes me sick how people want to judge my family and they dont know anything about my family . Even if they were the meth dealers of the year, did they deserve this? Soon, the Black Hawk County Sheriffs Department and the local fire department joined in the search for Elizabeth and Lyric. Also at the time the girls disappeared he lived on Gilbert Drive I just dnt knw. Better believe it .you are a nasty person and have no class someday our paths will cross and I cant wait you are a troll.drew Collins father of Elizabeth June Marie. Graveside services for Elizabeth were held at Waterloo Memorial Park Cemetery on Saturday, May 4, 2013, in Waterloo. prolly a family member..they kill us to keep control of fear in the rest of us. for behaviors consistent with stalking. Just like Delphi. Three of their victims were an innocent woman and her two young daughters who happened to be dating one of Honkens former dealersthey were considered collateral damage in Honkens quest to shut his victims up. There are several reasons based on the little that we do know. Somebody knows something. She was eight years old. 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He is considered endangered/physical, for some unknown reason. Two teenagers Abby and Libby, ages 13 and 14 years, respectively, from Delphi, Indiana, died in February 2017. SIX MILES! Some think it was a botched kidnapping/ransom scenario that went wrong ? Memorial services for Elizabeth Collins were held December 13. My guess is that he never believed the remains would be found. This suspicion was brought to light shortly after the girls disappearance. In a press conference held at the Evansdale City Hall on Tuesday, Feb. 3, 2015, Evansdale Chief of Police Kent Smock said authorities were focusing their efforts on anyone who might be familiar with the remote Bremer County woodland where Lyric and Elizabeth were found in December 2012. That would be unconscionable. It was a hot Summer afternoon in July of 2012 when young cousins, Lyric Cook-Morrissey and Elizabeth Collins happily rode away from Eizabeth's house in Evansdale, Iowa. A friend gave me this. They would have been left in front of their homes, or photos would have been sent of them harmed before they died. Volunteers thought up the project and put it together through fundraising. I hope and pray for information leading to an arrest. In her short years Lyric came to know the Lord Jesus Christ and the importance of salvation through Jesus for the people of the world. I pray there is one some day. Morel Mushroom season ends around the end of May. There is a severe lack of manpower and funding as compared to Canada-- and local police agencies mostly ignore the mounds of paperwork. They did so without attacking anyone else in the process. It is circumstancial. There is other things to worry about especially finding the killer of these two girls and your acting like a grammar nazi. Someone knew it was Richard in that video 2020. and how would he know both of their fathers were involved with drugs? XXXXX and her relatives know all these people personally and no one ever asked them anything, At least one girl in both sets had a phone and was online. Lots of people in Iowa are on meth. Blog He (more than likely a he), then drove to a remote, fairly distant area to dispose of the bodies. They started calling friends and family to see if they knew where Elizabeth and Lyric were. Maybe the FBI didnt have enough information. Im being a broken record here, but for a good reasonLOOK DEEPER INTO THE CONNECTIONS THE >FAMILIES< HAD IN THE DRUG WORLD When asked about Altmayer on July 12, 2017, Roehrkasse told KWWL, The most I would say is that he is one of our leads and I will leave it at that.. There is a connection. In short, given all the other eerie parallels-- the reverse dates, 7/13/12 and 2/13/17; the continued '213' or '13' theme with the time stamped by LE attack start as 2:13 PM; the isolated defunct railroad trails and bridges as locations (and imagery: Lyric and Elizabeth are found at Seven Bridges Wildlife Park and next to a river); similar parental situations that include drug manufacture, sales, and abuse; and, the murders' unique correlation with pork plants-- all the major plants in Indiana are within 45 minutes of each other and Tyson owns both Waterloo/Evansdale and Logansport: the combination of physical unknowns with glaring similarities and odd coincidences that may overwhelm apophenia should say to LE "please take a closer look.". The houses were next door. I know you surely didnt ask for any of this, If you could turn back time just for 1 min maybe it would change something? B Boxer No family deserves this to happen to their child. He wasnt even familiar with the area, and where the girls were found at Seven Bridges Wildlife Area is the kind of place where only locals who grew up in the area go to. People on the crew could have seen them alone every day on those paths. July 13, 2012 On the morning of Friday July 13th, 2012, cousins Elizabeth Collins (right) and Lyric Cook-Morrissey (left) were dropped off at their grandmother Wylma Cook's house, which sits along Brovan Boulevard in downtown Evansdalea town in Black Hawk County, Iowa with a population of around 5,000. However, investigators would have to be able to place him the area. Three years already. This beautiful girls deserve justice. Thats your investigation. Hundreds of volunteers had helped search for the cousins, and the lake near where their bicycles were found had been partially drained. On Friday, January 25, 2013, State Senator Kent Sorenson, R-Milo, championed the idea of reintroducing the death penalty in Iowa. I can not stand when people down others for errors. The ED bodies were going 6+ months later so they were so badly decomposed and scattered from the animals that a definite answer was improbable. I would bet anything it had to do with the drugs n ratting ppl out.makes me sick to my stomach because I was down by the lake twice that day within that time frame.. Steve, am sure you have done so did you see anything or remember anything? If so, gun enthusiasts should be looked at, in addition to hunters. Believe me, sometimes the general public knows way more than law enforcement agencies will ever know and to me those people are just as guilty as the killers for keeping that information secret. Thats where he stayed or lived with his mom or grandmother and the girls rode their bikes right past his house on Gilbert Street and all around there. So sad. Does Altmayer arrest have any connection to missing cousins case? (3) Victims were abducted at one site and murdered at a different site, (4) Both abduction and murder sites were linked to state parks, and/or historic trails where hunters would be familiar with, (5) Both murder scenes involved sexual staging of the bodies, (6) Both murders have had the families cleared of any wrong doing, which I understand family is the first to be looked at in every case, BUT, point being, both double murders would have been committed by a stranger which makes this occurrence even more rates, (7) Age range/group is the same in both double murders, mixed with all of the above gives both murders the same MO. That is the only missing link. They simply got in too deep with professional drug dealers and as i said before, very common practice to have the children kidnapped for ransom or as in this case, murdered. Sorry if this has been mentioned before but its my first post after catching up on the Iowa murders but just watching LordanArt's latest Elizabeth and Lyric video and wondered about a possible connection between the Iowa deaths of 13th July and Delphi's 13th February dates? Hey Daniel, What do you think of Leazenbys recent statement that YOURE I may just tell her to thank her friend for the docs number, and oh by the way how is she doing. And for justice. There refers to a place. Even though Dan Morrissey was involved with meth, my guess would be that if the murders were related to drugs, we would absolutely know. Smock was fired from his position as Evansdale chief of police on Tuesday, April 14, 2015. I pray for someone to comes forward. Heartbreaking..i hope they find.out who did this to them . They were able to confirm a bunch of things that show he wasnt in the Evansdale area at the time. She attended Kingsley Elementary School and was 10 years old. The parents may not know the specific killer but they DO know why thoes beautiful little girls lives we taken ! Related: 29 Unsolved Murders That Will Send Shivers Down Your Spine. I think Klunder is probably the perpetrator of this crime. I am perplexed though about the investigators telling the neighbor to watch their girls while the RA search warrant was being served (if indeed that's true)- makes me think they aren't limiting him to one double homicide?? There may be some similarities but you can find similarities in everything if you look hard enough. It is obvious why everyone jumped to the conclusion it might have been a trucker. I highly doubt the girls murders are related to drugs, or that the murder were perpetrated by drug-traffickers, or a gang of any kind. Again Thank you Kim. The reverse date thing is rather creepy Ill give you that. So surely law enforcement has asked for cell phone pings at the Lake when the girls were there and then tracked those pings to actual owners of those cell phones. I hope they do the right thing. I know a lot of people focus on Lyrics mother and father because of their drug history, but some people were focused more on where the girls were found: Seven Bridges Wildlife Area. The one that kind of got the ball rolling was actually several months later. December 5th. Here are just a couple of charges Chad Fitz has had in the past. J Bacteriol. He's wagon of mail was found a block away from his house. Facebook gives people the power to share and makes the world more open and connected. Lyric and Elizabeth often rode their bikes within a 2-block radius. She was an infectious joy to be around with a smile that radiated with love. Both crimes occurred less than a mile from a four- lane highway. Shepard, 15, and another girl were kidnapped from Dayton on May 20 while walking home after school. Memorial services were held Thursday, December 13, 2012 at 5 p.m. at the Heartland Vineyard Church, 1405 Greenhill Rd., in Cedar Falls. My thinking is maybe someone saw them from a road and it was a crime of opportunity. Additionally, Cedar Valley Crime Stoppers offered a $20,500 reward for anyone coming forward with information that simply leads to an arrest. The case remained could until 1977 when he allegedly visited his mother, she claimed her son told her that he had escaped from a child abuse ring by prominent Iowa businessmen and politicians .. At the same time, investigators said Dan and Misty were not considered suspects in the girls disappearance, and were looking into their backgrounds and that of their associates only so as not to discount any possible leads. Not sure why? About There not enough time. A short while later, they were spotted about a mile-and-a-half from their grandmothers house. How do you know he bought it there? Smock said they want to speak with anyone who is familiar with the wildlife area which was formerly a Bremer County park and a popular gathering place in order to eliminate them as suspects. 12/7/20, 5:39 PM I know you have interviewed all the usual suspects, including those named in the Dephi murders, etc. Elizabeth Collins, 8 & Lyric Cook, 10 Homicide Narrative: Delphi, Indiana Friends Libby German, 14, and Abby Williams, 13, left school early and were dropped off around 1:45pm by a relative to go hiking on trails near the Moon High Bridge in Delphi, Indiana. He is also listed as a Missing Person from North Liberty, Iowa, according to the Iowa Dept. The children were moved from the abduction site and their bodies were dumped in a more remote area 25 miles away, so, like the police said, the abductor most likely lives in and knows the area. Many years ago the man that lived there kidnapped and killed a small child. My wife said that night her mom called she said they thought it had to do with the stepdad and meth dealing. OMG he lived 16 minutes or 6 miles from the Seven Bridges park SIX MINUTES!!! According to a Cedar Rapids Gazette article published July 25, 2012, Dan Morrissey, 36, was scheduled to appear Friday in Black Hawk County court in Waterloo for a pretrial conference covering four separate cases, including one where he was charged with assaulting his estranged wife, Misty Morrissey, the mother of 10-year-old Lyric Cook. Lyric and Elizabeth were then seen on Lake Avenue, still together and on their bikes. Im easily manipulated and often lied to but I try yo be honest as I can and not use others toward my own personal gains or demand to get my own beliefs and opinions forced on others. A search began, and local parks, schools, and other areas were looked through. I think you will all agree with me that Seven Bridges is extremely remote, Smock said. She had a big heart and had a great love for animals. All Rights Reserved, Home Im glad Im not the only one with that theory! Unlike Lyric and Elizabeths case, Abby and Libbys bodies were found the next day. rip little angel my heart aches that the world is so cruel to take you and your cousin. Were coming for you. The two girls were nowhere to be found, nor was there any idea of what could have happened to them. Frita, even while criticizing someones use of the word prolly, your own comment contained three grammatical errors. A serial killer who operates during the day in rural areas, so long as the chosen area is within a mile of a four lane highway. So one of them says hey ur mom/dads in trouble come w us & they did. They would also target drop off spots for their bodies where know abductions had taken place so the public would automatically think it was a child molester/killer. (Police Photo) Unfortunately, the horrific murder of Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail "Abby" Williams has still not been solved. But tried to communicate. Investigators have yet to share publicly how Lyric and Elizabeth died. Both cases occurred on Earth. Fourth Memorial Ride & Drive in honor of Lyric and Elizabeth, by Taylor Bailey, KWWL.com reporter, Airdate: July 9, 2016, Volunteers prepare for ride in honor of Lyric and Elizabeth, by Nikki Newbrough, KWWL.com, Airdate: July 7, 2016, Vigil Held for 3 Girls, Gone too Soon, by Bevan J. Lucas, KGAN, Airdate: March 12, 2015, Iowa starts year-long process to be CART-certified, by Kristyna Engdahl, KETV.com Its not really a destination or a place anyone knows about except for locals. Her dog, Gus, also attended the graveside service and was decorated with a rose. Most Iowa meth dealers I am aware of are small time losers who will be caught by LE long before they can do serious damage (in the form of murders and stuff, obviously theyre doing damage to addicts and their families). I am not dan or misty I am my own person I have nothing to do with meth or people who do . He is now suspect for Delphi murders. It doesnt have a dedicated area for target shooting, but its of note that the girls were discovered on the first day of deer hunting season. By continuing to browse, you accept the use of cookies and other technologies. PMID: 20511496. Old people love to talk about other old people. XXXXX sent December 7, 2020 You know what needs to be focused on? They just arent releasing it! XXXXX told me about his car being crushed (I found he had a white PU at the time, maybe his, maybe the persons he lived with, he/they may have others, but this was at least one of them.) Were there two family Press J to jump to the feed. The park where the girls were found is very remote and only the kind of place locals who grew up in the area ever visit. I will keep up on this until he, she or they get caught. It must be nice living in judgement of others why dont you look at yourself .karma is a bitch Id watch out someday something tragic could happen to you and maybe while your going threw hell some asshole will talk shit about you online . She had last seen them riding their bikes toward downtown around 12:20 pm in Evansdale, Iowa, a town of about 4700 people 10 miles southeast of Waterloo. Shes so cute; Id like to kidnap her, the article quotes R. Fitz as saying. I was a kid at the time, and I remember going to school the day they found their bodies. The police were so freaked out that they actuially stood on the prints and smoked before the detectives got there. I want laws changed I want parents aware and deligent and I want the closed minded masses to think for theirselves to put the children first. The bodies weren't buried but were moved to and found in a remote area, so it can't be said whether or not they were meant to be discovered. I know, that is what I have been asking you. I saw the post about these two girls and wondered if there might have been an update. Hundreds of cyclists rode the nearly 100-mile route in two-by-two formation showing solidarity for those theyve lost, KWWL.com reported on May 16, 2014. As XXXXX is telling me this story, she burst into tears. The girls set out around noon that day. The bodies were transported to the State Medical Examiners Office in Ankeny for positive identification. So sad. Many times were treasured as a family lying in bed eating popcorn and watching movies. In a Waterloo-Cedar Falls Courier story published July 26, 2015, interim Evansdale Police Chief Jeff Jensen said the Evansdale cousins case was never to be considered a cold case., WHO-TV reported Feb. 5, 2016, that investigators were still fielding tips in the Evansdale Cousins Case.. Here is where you may feel I am off track or speculating. Either way, look deeper into the families connection with the drug world and you WILL find the killer/killers. I wonder if there is a connection :(. This theory is actually world wide on different sites. He is now deceased, but he had a habit of abducting two girls at a time for his perversions. Did the writer clearly convey what he/she meant as it related to this cold case? This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. shortly after this full time officer quits to go work for railroad. I always thought it was someone working for the DOT. I happen to be in the Evansdale and Delphi murders connected camp. Lyric and Elizabeth were found so much later( 5 months), I doubt LE could identify COD. You sent December 7, 2020 Now, why are you commenting on my comment a year later. In early February 2017, artists Jeff Sonksen and Christopher Leet both friends with Drew Collins unveiled murals theyd created to shed light on the girls cold case. Either it was someone who was naive to the idea that hunters would be in the area and would probably find the girls or it was someone who knew and wanted the girls to be found during hunting season. Dan, do you think the two cases are related? You mean like a door closer? They either received drugs that couldnt be paid for or they stole drugs from dealer. Both occurred in broad daylight. Look at those two charges! Post Author: Post published: 23/05/2022 Post Category: kent island high school athletics Post Comments: lexington country club membership fee lexington country club membership fee She enjoyed going on vacations and had traveled to many places. Do you have an idea how ignorant you sound. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Hardly anything about him. Even though LE has stated they do not believe the two to be connected in any way, the similarities really are chilling. They all remain in the Evansdale/Independence area. I always pull up google maps when reviewing these cases. Make sure you have facts to support your suspicions. Motives. I think Jodi is right on the money ! Drew- so sorry that on top of losing your daughter you have to deal with crap like this. theres an awful lot of them though. What kind of closer? tried to deescalate the crowd by reassuring us that Kent smock was the man for the job! They are two totally different set of circumstances. Lyric and Elizabeth were in IA. Prayers to the family and friends. Hypnosis will bring it out and we can move on. Some have said the fact that the hunters found the girls bodies in such a remote area is lucky. WTH? Being there was two girls, one watched the other die first, again, pointing back to the MO. Five blocks from my home a murdered womans body was dumped. Why did the brother vanish so quickly after the girls were declared missing ? So to me, they were both killed with a knife or a bladed weapon. She spoke of them often. I think it would be great if people stopped attacking the family members for their mistakes and drug use. Related: 11 Cold Case Books That Will Chill You to the Bone. Maybe they want everyone involved? All this week KCRG is airing stories about Elizabeth and Lyrics abductions and murders. There would not have been much of the remains left by January 2013. And this serial killer was able to orchestrate this twice. for example the names of the more robust girls, how would this guy know lyric and libbys middle names and that they were more robust? Bridges exist in both cases. Didnt you say Gilbert in Evansdale? So please dont act like you know anything about me . Which Parents,, both sides have their share!!!!! Now Ive recently heard of a guy in Webster Co. that was trying to snatch children. Once Lyrics mother, Misty, returned to pick her up, the family grew concerned. It is sad that we have turned into a society that tears other people down rather practice, innocent until proven guilty. i think when its too late, we dont want libby and abby to have the same fate. Dates seen March 2005. Maybe he already has. This July 13th will be the ninth anniversary of the girls disappearance. All three witnesses said theyd seen the SUV sometime between 11:30 a.m. and 12:30 p.m. on July 13, 2012, the same day and approximate time period when the girls went missing, WHOTV Channel 13 reported on June 24, 2012. You deserved better, so did your little ones. I am not saying he was involved, but he has connections to the area. Died at U of I Hospital? Not when were discussing the double homicide or two young girls in the same region a few hours apart as rare as this occurrence is. Also, would he have knowledge of the area. This was in no way set up as if to send a message as dealers and the mafia do. I dont know her name I will be in Evansdale Wednesday They were taken from a trail thats just 40-50 feet from the highway. or. Chad Fitz has a huge record yet no obit anywhere online just a short death notice in Waterloo Courier. very good questions.I believe that the site where they were found was a known meth lab dump site.In the heart of the park.definitely someone local!!! Looking on Google Earth it looks like it is the southeastern half of Waterloo. She had a heart of compassion for her family and her friends. Thankfully, we know for every county, every city, what unsolved missing persons cases they have, said Gerard Meyers, assistant director of field operations of the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation in a USA Today story published June 10, 2013. Its an area few people would know about. The same guy did both. Prayers for these families. Does not seem like it. Two friends out together enjoying nature on a nice day. They would kill the children and lay them face down with their arms folded under their heads as if they were sleeping. Talk to the police about it? But, it is one piece of the pie. Unfortunately, nothing turned up as to what could have happened to Elizabeth and Lyric. Thank you! Pig slaughter plants exist in both locations. In my opinion, if you follow criminal profiling, I dont see he could possibility be eliminated!!! Did you come here just to troll people? Young teens Abby Williams and Liberty German went out to enjoy a walk on a local trail and disappeared. The girls' bodies were found the following day, approximately half a mile from the bridge. This may be the same people yet I don't know why the would kill them but this could be a lead idk, johnny was delivering newspapers on his route not mail. For misappropriation of law enforcement resources. The girls were seen at about 12:23 p.m. July 13 on Brovan Boulevard in Evansdale, and then spotted between 12:30 and 1 p.m. on Gilbert Drive not far from Meyers Lake, a popular fishing and recreation area in the northeastern Iowa city of about 4,700 residents. From a psychology stand point, this is the reason the killer targets two girls, because part of his thrill is the fear shown by the second victim watching the first die, knowing whats coming next. In addition to her parents, Drew and Heather Collins of Evansdale, Elizabeth was survived by a brother, Kelly, and two sisters, Amber and Callie, all of Evansdale; maternal grandmother Wylma Cook of Waterloo; paternal grandparents Jeno Collins of Detroit and Aaron Michael and Sharon King of Elk Run Heights; and many aunts, uncles and cousins. Rip sweet angelsthis is so sad. She was preceded in death by her paternal great-grandparents Herb and Marie Johnson; maternal grandfather Ray Cook; maternal great-grandparents Cliff and June Brandes and many aunts, uncles, great-aunts and great-uncles. I want sexual offenders against children to know we are not going to take our children being used and taken and slaughtered anymore. these beautiful souls Join this channel to get . Lyric passed away on Friday, July 13, 2012. His DNA can be on them and their bodies. The offender profile concluded, in part, that: Analysts experience with prior abduction cases points to one person being involved, but there are cases where more than one person was involved, The Courier said. Its very concerning to us when you have an individual like that that has the access that he does through his employment at the time to basically roam the state or roam the Midwest, Mitch Mortvedt, Head of Field Operations for the Iowa DCI, said of Altmayer. All four of the bodies were left on land that is typically frequented by hunters. Not all mutilated like you would expect from such animals. Community members held a candlelight vigil Wednesday night at Meyers Lake at the same spot where theyd set up a makeshift memorial after the girls disappeared in July. Everyone thinks all they need is DNA. But most likely drug money and prison time. Typically, the wildlife area isnt highly traveled, especially in the summertime. This is a community where we can speak openly about the Murders of Libby and Abby in Delphi, IN. Im not pushing this off on Drugs because its the path of least resistance, Im stating known and proven facts. He was cleared So we take that into consideration as well and we've investigated that, we've been in contact with Iowa and they've been in contact with us and we've discussed that but nothing else seems to be popping up around the nation that is similar to this but doesn't mean he's gonna kill everybody the same way every time. On Thursday, August 21, 2014, Evansdale police unveiled a new web page http://evansdalepolice.org/latestonlyricandelizabeth.php to act as a clearinghouse for information on the unsolved case. Other is Higher Confidence 2848 270th St Readlyn, IA 50668 3) In reference to your insults about the commenters lack of education, I believe you meant to say eighth grade rather than eigth grade. The whole town was looking for her, yet she was already deceased in his attic. All someone would have to do is threaten them with a gun. As of July 2017, two people have confessed to the crime, but KCCI said authorities eliminated them after discovering the individuals had no intimate details about the case. Which would mean he was somewhat familiar with the area. In July 2017, hundreds rode in the Fifth Memorial Ride and Drive. I thought it was the house we drove by right by the lake. I like the updates. The Gazette also reported that investigators were closely scrutinizing Dan and Misty Morrissey and had subjected both of them to multiple polygraph tests. Volunteers soon came out by the hundreds, organizing candlelight vigils, press conferences, and searches. Murders and crimes like such are committed for punishment, and the person being punished must be made aware of this fact. Her desire to have fun within those loving relationships was seen while going to church, sharing devotions with her parents in the morning and card games with her grandmother in the afternoons. Unreal! | Ive loved true crime since Forensic Files was Medical Detectives! Lyric passed away on Friday, July 13, 2012. Basically just asking the prosecutor for a ton of documents and information. Some do appear more significant than others, but also have reasonable explanations that dont point to them being linked. State police say more audio from libby german's cell phone was played for the victims' Investigators have explained that the details of the crime scene indicate a signature, which can help them identify the killer. At first, investigators werent 100 percent sure whether the girls disappearance was accidental or criminal, so cadaver dogs and infrared aircraft were brought to the lake as well. Why are you commenting on this year old comment? He seemed perfectly comfortable taking two victims at a time. This was highly unusual for both Libby and Abby . This happened in Des Moines but just hang in there. Im surprised someone hasnt let it slipped as to who did this. Not everyone has a conscience, I see that you have been correcting peoples grammar but dont you mean coma instead of comma? Im sorry no child is safe. According to KCRG, the group hopes to continue raising money to add a few more memorials and additions to the park like a roadway from the land to the island, a gazebo, and possibly a bronze statue. You sent December 7, 2020 Probably a family friend who grew up in the area and had a hunting or fishing license at one point. This seems to be a chance encounter with an opportunistic predator, or someone who will acknowledge an opportunity that presents them with the chance to abuse a child. We always talk about local creeps and crimes and she began the tour by pointing out a house where an awful person lived, not the suspect, but inferences could be drawn by some psychologists, sociologists, and criminologists if they are related because they have the same name. There is someone out there, other than the person(s) who committed this crime, that knows the identity hoping someone gets a conscious and reveals who it is. Its so close to Highway 20 its hard to believe someone snatched them from the trail. And found by hunters, so obviously people hunt there. They do mingle in the same places as the girls families and are personally acquainted with some of the family members, as well as with law enforcement officers. Or those girls saw something they shouldnt have. I was watching the ID Channel, and a episode came on about a prisoner named Kevin Sweat from OK state prison. Possible connection between Abby and Libby and Elizabeth and Lyric? The Evansdale victims weren't found for 5 months, with more than a month of hot weather, the decomposition would have been very rapid. One of my friends is from Evansdale and knew the two missing girls. or that they both lived with their grandparents? I say keep digging til you hit China ! He loved the woods and bridges, fishing and was a semi driver. Yeahwho, Mr. Robert Lindsay who apparently knows who the killer is. Peter Vronsky, in American Serial Killers: The Epidemic Years, 1950-2000, dedicates a lengthy passage to comparing local participation in submitting to databases that would help identify linkage. Most likely a team of two, but sexual predators, especially child sex offenders, tend to commit crimes alone. Really !, dont dig deeper to find out who did this ??? Gilbert Drive in Evansdale and it was his mom he lived with. You saw the killer. Of the $170,500 reward, officials said $150,000 was raised privately and by the FBI for information leading to an arrest and conviction in the case. After their searches turned up empty, the family reported the girls as missing to the Evansdale Police Department approximately two and a half hours after the initial bike ride. Dont attack somebody for there grammar but its ok to attack the family of the girls. but as far as i know.. we dont know if they were kept captives all this time or not. Elizabeth "Libby" Phillips Obituary - Advantage Funeral . computer crimes. I myself have been sexually abused as a child. Two witnesses said theyd seen the white SUV parked between two bike trail signs. When does deer hunting usually start? I dont know what model his car was just that it was at the crushers but someone smelled a rotten odor but it was cleared by fbi Trees and a fence partially block the view from the highway but there are houses on the other side of the trees that have a direct line of sight to the trail. Sheriff: No comment, KWWL Channel 7, Feb. 12, 2013, Officials to Rename Park, Trail for Cousins Abducted from Evansdale, KCRG-TV Channel 9, Feb. 5, 2013, Cause of Evansdale cousins deaths will be kept confidential, The Des Moines Register, Jan. 2, 2013, Funeral for Lyric Cook planned for Dec. 29, The Iowa City Press-Citizen, Dec. 17, 2012, Autopsies confirm bodies are missing girls, KCCI Channel 8, Dec. 10, 2012, Cousins case nears homicide classification, The Des Moines Register, Dec. 8, 2012, 127 Photos Search for Missing Iowa Girls, The Des Moines Register, Missing Girls: Autopsies could take weeks, KCCI Channel 8 Des Moines, Dec. 7, 2012, 2 bodies found in N.E. Try our coffee!! I may have missed a lot of the discussions and taken the wrong/right side or neither I dont know what goes on in the mind of others but I do know evil exists. Thats exactly what happened to a grandmother to two young cousins, ages eight and ten. Then couldnt cameras on private property identify vehicles en route to the seven bridges area pror to the time the bodies appeared? Do it for those girls. Later that same day, the girls bikes and Elizabeths purse were found near the corner of Meyers Lake. In my opinion Delphi and Evansdale are not connected. Moreover, if committed by someone close to Elizabeth and Lyric, their bodies would most likely have been left at the lake, or they would have been moved to a closer, more public area. Even if I am proven wrong by an arrest of a drug cartel member, other children and adults in this state have been spotted, stalked, killed, and dumped. A lot of similarities. My friends family lived near the Fitzs and several times he had tried to get her children to come over or go for rides, etc. Airdate: Feb. 10, 2015, DCI Asst. Ive been thinking of them often latley as summer is now here and how heartbreaking it is that their family still does not have any more answers and that justice has not been brought. the similarities are super weird but some of them are hard to come up with an explanation for. Here it is, as I see it, and this site PROVES, children get abducted and murdered everywhere. Copyright 2023 Iowa Cold Cases, Inc. All rights reserved. I was so upset when they were found. I also often wonder how they were able to rule him out. It is uncommon for stranger abductions to happen. Thank you in advance! She showed me where Chad Fitzs mom or grandma lived, right by Meyers Lake. Care to mention? Just to show you how ridiculous and insulting comments like this come across to others: 1) In your first sentence, the ending quotation mark should have been outside the five question marks. In an interview Wylma gave, she stated the cousins went out to ride their bikes hundreds of times and this time they did not come home. I agree, great post. He told the creepy stories about how she liked sitting on his lap and that she wanted him. She was really cute, he told the reporter. During a press conference that day, police said they believed the person who abducted the cousins was likely local, the Waterloo Cedar Falls Courier reported Aug. 22, 2014. I think a lot of people are, family friend Sarah Curl told WHO-TVs Aaron Brilbeck. I love this! Both are deceased now, but Chad should be considered a suspect anyway. Did you see yesterdays Des Moines Register? Notoriety. Cousins Lyric Cook and Elizabeth Collins were reported missing by their maternal grandmother Wylma Cook just after 2 pm. Even though it is remote there is a High School less than 2 miles north of the 7 Bridges Wildlife area. I can read anything in the English Lang but do not ask me to spell or put it in correct grammar! And the crimes he committed there and in Dayton seem to be somewhat similar. Follow ICC on Twitter. The word is probably as in you probably did not make it past eigth grade. But hey no one is a criminal until they get caught right. If you think someone might be a suspect, contact the authorities rather than putting someones name on public forums. I can pass your name and info to them so they can contact you, since you know the facts. Yes! I am reading conflicting reports. I dont know why but it tends to give be a better perspective of what happened and how. An unknown SK seems very feasible to me. Some of the most disturbing drug related killings was that of drug dealers luring the children of lower level users and dealers that had stolen product from them or owed money for drugs used. Mr. Collins lost his daughter, his niece, his marriage, his peace of mind and much more. The responsible person might be someone that their families were acquainted with, but it could have been a stranger (doesnt happen as often, but it does happen). He is likely to do it again. I thought you said that was Gilbert Drive in Evansdale. 2 young girls, white truck. Their is possesive, as in it is their turn. could be anything. I see Rydell is a dealer in Waterloo where he got the car. get hypnotized. I really wish the woman of cold justice would look into this, 1982 September 5th Jonny Gosch was reported missing after he "disappeared" while delivering mail. Sonksen and Leet had painted a tribute to two angels, with wings, to serve as a reminder that Lyric and Elizabeth forever soar in the hearts of many. Kent did it. Its not a matter of finding as many similarities as possible, because this actually doesnt support the idea of the crimes being linked. He denied this possibility. A lot of the similarities are more likely the result of circumstance. Jim Newton the Detective working that case then showed me the pictures that could not be used in evidence. XXXXXXX sent December 7, 2020 All fingers point right the immediate family. Hes killed before. So do you know the name of the crusher and how did he Fitz die? Its a niche sort of area that only has locals going to it for hunting, fishing, and seasonal morel mushroom hunting. GONE COLD: EXPLORING IOWAS UNSOLVED MURDERS, http://evansdalepolice.org/latestonlyricandelizabeth.php, person who abducted the cousins was likely local, National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, https://iowacoldcases.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Fourth-Memorial-Ride-Drive-in-honor-of-Lyric-and-Elizabeth-KWWL-Eastern-Iowa-Breaking-News-Weather-Closings.mp4, https://iowacoldcases.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Volunteers-prepare-for-ride-in-honor-of-Lyric-and-Elizabeth-KWWL-Eastern-Iowa-Breaking-News-Weather-Closings.mp4, https://iowacoldcases.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Vigil-Held-for-3-Girls-Gone-too-Soon-KGAN.mp4, https://iowacoldcases.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Iowa-starts-year-long-process-to-be-CART-certified.mp4, Iowa starts year-long process to be CART-certified, https://iowacoldcases.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/DCI-Asst-Director-Talks-About-Evansdale-Cousins-Murder-Investigation-whotvcom.mp4, DCI Asst. Evansdale crime 7-13-2012, Delphi 2-13-2017 perfect reversal of each other. Somebody knows something but they are keeping very quiet! These drug cartel enforcer are animals but they are also magnificently smart. (Comment was made in ED murders that they are not looking for a gun in this murder). There are the reverse dates: 7-13-12 / 2-13-17. These were not not run of the mill Druggies that you see on tv sitting on a tore up couch in a 825 mobile home. XXXXXX sent December 7, 2020 In fact she called us in Colorado the night the girls went missing. Abben said there were no other missing persons cases and the remains found were of a smaller stature. While we were sitting on the lawn waiting for instructions on the search parties. Investigators traveled to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children in Virginia to discuss the case, and Smock said federal authorities were impressed with the investigators efforts thus far. Both sets of girls were found 50 ft from a slow moving stream. I pray they find who did this. 1 / 7. The other girl managed to escape when Klunder took Shepard to another part of the property, police say. I have been unable to find out if my suspect, Chad Fitz is related to Russell Fitz. My thought is that it was a local man who one of the girls knew. The killers are there ! Lyric and Elizabeth were in IA. This is the most obscure area in the park and is next to I-350. Scott Medhaug was staying at Debra Kings. The FBIs Behavioral Analysis Unit, which develops profiles of suspects, had released new details drawn from the FBI study and unveiled those conclusions on the Evansdale police web page for Lyric and Elizabeth, the Courier said. The little girls were around the same age as my son. I believe both cases are from the SK. The girls went missing on July 13. Libby EA, Ekici S, Goulian M. Imaging OmpR binding to native chromosomal loci in Escherichia coli. No witnessnes, no evidence, nobody speaking up. Through the years she has often suggested we take a tour of Evansdale so she could show me Meyers Lake, Angels Park, and where the girls lived and so forth. Care to mention? According to KWWL Channel 7, the other witness told police they saw the vehicle parked near the woods on the east side of the lake only a few hundred feet from where the bikes were found. He supposedly had two previous arrests involving children. They were also in agreement that Seven Bridges Wildlife Area represented an important part of the case, The Gazette reported Feb. 3, 2015. Her daughter said R. Fitz attempted to get her to kiss his .., but more alarming, his wife was there and she laughed and said, Russell, put that thing away and made some comment that he needed to quit doing that stuff. I want to lyric and Lizs life and death have meaning and make the changes nessasry to protect and to allow other children their freedom to play again. Director Talks About Evansdale Cousins Murder Investigation, by Kelly Maricle, WHOTV.com, Airdate: January 29, 2015, EVANSDALE MURDERS: Police Rule Out Klunder, by Sam Hoyle, WHOTV.com, Airdate May 14, 2014, ONE YEAR: Parents Happy With Investigation, by Staff, WHOTV.com, Airdate July 12, 2013. After walking around looking for the girls It was later confirmed by the Delphi Police in a Press Conference that it was indeed the bodies of Abby and Libby that had been found, thus throwing a. He called Libby's cellphone, but there was no answer. Thats why i think the drug dealers have something to do with it. What is prolly????? Im sorry Im still sending prayers. Fishermen found Shepards body Friday night, June 7, 2013, in the Des Moines River about 15 to 20 miles downriver from where it runs along Daytons east side. Lyric was preceded in death by her paternal great-grandfather, Jim Weikert and maternal grandfather, Ray Cook. Buying a house? I have a feeling that these 2 girls knew their murderer. they didnt go out and say ( we dont know how thy were killed ? Hopefully with time theyll fess up if they dont get busted first. Well want to look and see if there are any attributes from those cases that are at all consistent with this case.. It is very common for revenge to be taken out on the loved ones in this fashion. Both locations for crime are fishing/hunting/outdoors spots. Contact Us. Jodi I dont have any drug dealers so I would appriciate if you might not talk about me like you know me . Jody, I think the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation needs to look at Ricki C. Hess, 52, as of 2017. Do you recall where you learned all of this? You may have interviewed the gentleman I am addressing here. Lyric and Elizabeth went missing on 7/13, not 1/13. Theres probably more Im missing.I just wish the Evansdale girls got a 1/3 of the publicity as Delphi. Seems so logical that he could be involved. :-/. Why was he fired. It was short and grainy, but it placed the cousins less than a block from their grandmothers house around 12:11pm, near an auction house. Here is ISP Detective Jerry Holman August 2017. I think it was somebody that knew the girls. My friends ex husband has a number of employees, he once had a public works position in XXXXXXXX and most of her family now works at XXXXXXXX. XXXXXX sent December 7, 2020 Elizabeth Collins (left) and Lyric Cook (right) were found dead in Iowa in 2012. Seems it was all botched or something from the get go. And considering your past,maybe you cant pass one. Lyric Cook (courtesy Locke Funeral Home) Mike, he sounds like a good candidate. Misty and Dan did,and passed! I live in a town of 500. I dont know lyric or Liz or their families personaly but they have changed me, and I will never forget them Please no grammar police. I pray someone comes forward. I apologize for Gray Hughes interrupting with commentary but it is on his show: You know he could be you know just again this is kind of our theory or speculation, we have no evidence that he's done it again. But they sadly just had almost nothing to work with. These murders were a direct result of the parents bad habits. Poor girls :(. This actually happens a lot within the world of illegal drug use and dealing of drugs. They couldn't sit on DNA evidence tying Lyric & Elizabeth's case to Libby & Abby's case. And just what ARE they doing with any DNA they have? I don't see it as being secretive, there probably is very little forensic evidence. NOT CLEARED in the Delphi murders? 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